In an unrelated note, I had my VO2 Max measured/calcualted at 7 am today on a treadmill at the Pacific Athletic Club Nothing quite like running on a treadmill to total exahustion to wake you up. I was not real happy at my "score" of 51.8, although I've not really been doing too much speed work. My wimpy 1000 meter speed swim workout right afterward was never so easy though